intertwingly

It looks like SOAP is destined to continue to be maligned and misunderstood.

Dave Winer is upset because not everybody limits themselves to his narrow RPC profile of SOAP usage.  Non-RPC usage of SOAP isn't new - it was always in the spec.  And things that fit Dave's narrow profile continue to interop.

Mark Baker is upset because SOAP permits usages which are not, in his and many people's opinion, well architected.  Usages such as RPC.  While many of Mark's arguments resonate with me, he tends to throw the baby out with the bathwater.  He might as well say that Python is not a good language for building REST systems because it can also be used for RPC.

Meanwhile, where Mark throws up his hands, others are making progress.