With RSS 2.0, you can have endless debates over whether the feed provided by blogs.msdn.com is wrong, IE7 is wrong, or if the spec is wrong.
With Atom 1.0, the spec is clear. If you tend to put things like " into titles with the intention of having it interpreted as a quotation mark, then you need to add type="html".
Small irony being that viewing this post through the Atom feed in Bloglines replaced the amp-quot bits in the blockquote with appropriate quotes. Damn Bloglines!
Let see if I got this right. The spec is clear, so no need of having endless debates, but becuz two of the most popular aggrivators do it wrong, then people who read the clear spec, if they want their texts to work with the two poppie aggies, have to do it wrong. So is that a clear spec, or did someone just fart-up the whole works? Sorry if I gots it wrong.
I would like to point out that this post came through as intended on Planet Intertwingly. So it’s not impossible to build Atom-compliant software, even if you started out as RSS-only software.
The spec is clear, so no need of having endless debates, but becuz two of the most popular aggrivators do it wrong, then people who read the clear spec, if they want their texts to work with the two poppie aggies, have to do it wrong. So is that a clear spec, or did someone just fart-up the whole works?
The Microsoft weblog platform is doing it wrong. NNW is doing it wrong. Bloglines is doing it wrong. Google Reader is doing it wrong. And each of them can decide to say “we will continue breaking the spec.”
But there’s no discussion about whether they’re breaking the spec or not. Neither they nor you nor anyone who has read the spec can argue that their behaviour is not in breach of the spec. It is. Period.
To be clear, IE7 displays this weblog entry correctly. It is blogs.msdn.com that produces incorrect feeds. And IE7 (and presumably therefore the Windows RSS platform) process the incorrect MSDN feeds per the specification.
It wonder if MSDN will accept a bug report on this... I’ll check.
NNW is doing it wrong.
To be clear, the current version of NNW displays this entry correctly. Older versions may not.
Microsoft is aware of the problem. I’ve reported it to them a couple of times before. They say they’re working with Telligent (the people that handle the MSDN blogs) to get it fixed.
As James notes, this is an issue with Community Server 2.0, the blogging software that powers blogs.msdn.com. The folks at Telligent have fixed it in CS 2.1 which is due to be rolled out on blogs.msdn.com towards the end of this month.
For what it’s worth, IE7 treats titles as plain text in RSS 2.0 (and 1.0), and respects the type attribute in Atom 1.0.
The folks at Telligent have fixed it in CS 2.1 which is due to be rolled out on blogs.msdn.com towards the end of this month.
Excellent! So by my count every single product mentioned on this thread either is already fixed, or has a fix coded that hasn’t been deployed yet, but will be shortly.
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